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reid kept the focus on the president's winning campaign message of letting the tax cuts expire on incomes over $250,000 a year. >> the people who have done so well during this difficult time with the economy, the richest of the rich are going to have to pay a little more to solve the financial problems we have this this country. >> this is what the campaign has been all about. congressional democrats are making sure the message is simple, consistent, to the point and easy to consume. recent comments from david plouffe as well as lawmakers left the president's strategy open to interpretation. progressives were concerned the social safety net programs were on the chopping block, but today democrats were unified in their approach. they are all on the same page. the president was reluctant to agree to a deal cutting medicare and medicaid benefits. president obama is seeking $1.6 trillion in additional revenue over ten years and $340 billion in health care savings. the time says the deal would not affect benefits. that's the keyword, benefits. the president and some democrats in the
's negotiatorring position is nothing but tax increases and harry reid would some of the senators may want to focus their attention on has announced there is no entitlement reform, so to argue that the taxpayers should take the brunt of this battle and they should not defend taxpayers but the spending interests in washington, strikes me as odd. the effort by some to get entitlement reform, the democrats have said heck no and harry reid has said it ain't happening, and they ought to look at that, rather than trying to raise taxes to pay for obama's bigger government. >>neil: do you hear it is spreading? we have chatted about this before. you were open when we chatted in washington, to talk about the cliff cliff, to not equateing bringing in causes or tax loopholes and the like and closing them off, your point was as long as it leads eventually to revamping of the tax code, but this goes beyond that, they have no quid pro quo and they are offering this, you argue, what? >>guest: well, there are two ways you can damage the economy. one is to increase marginal tax rates, everyone knows the small busine
of taking the economy off the fiscal cliff is harry reid, president obama, he says he wants to compromise. he says there's only two options here, take the economy off the fiscal cliff or do it my way. that doesn't sound like something he's willing to negotiate in good faith. so, listen, republicans want to restore confidence and certainty to this economy. i don't think want to play brinkmanship, the way to do this is through pro-growth tax reform. i'll quote the numbers again. you'll get ten times the amount of revenue by growing the economy, $750 billion versus the measly $68 billion that the president's proposing by punishing success. i think that would work far better. >> and you're saying revenue because by taxing the wealthiest americans, it cuts off what has been referred to as job creators from actually getting americans to work so we have more americans working that are then paying into the tax system. >> thomas, i'm one of those job creators, those small business people. i could have explained to him what's on the minds of job creators, the people that make those investment decis
is joy ann reid, and ana marie cox, washington correspondent for the guardian. thank you both for joining me tonight. >> good to be here. >> ana marie, let me start with you. do republicans see the writing on the wall in this tax debate? >> i think they do. obviously some of them do. and i have to say, this is like a very weird place to kind of like stake your claim, like this is what you're going to commit political suicide over. there are actually other conservative ideals that i understand the philosophical principles behind and why you might go to the mat on this one. but this was -- as the president said, this was something that was decided by the election. this is not something that people were wishy-washy on. americans don't mind if you raise taxes on the very wealthy. not only do they not mind but they want this. i think it only makes sense for republicans to at least do what tom cole has said, which is to settle for this now and then if you want to have that fight later, if you want to make your debate points later, go ahead and do that. at this point, the memory so fresh with wh
months of 2007 george bush went to nancy pelosi and harry reid and said i need a, guess what, stimulus. that terrible word. pelosi and reid worked with him to do that. then in 2008 they came to us. john, you and i worked together on the whole response to the financial. i believe we had in 2007, 2008, this is not a longstanding problem. a great deal of cooperation in the bush administration. i do believe that there were elected some people in 2010, tea party influence, who reputinated the notion of compromise, and someave said it exclusively. i think partisanship, you have to start from a position of principle and then you work together. i think in 2007 and 2008 we showed how can you do that. >> candy, let me join in the general hopefulness that we're going to avoid the fiscal cliff, but it's not a done deal. it's not a certainty. the reason is the country -- the government is on automatic pilot to the fiscal cliff, to massive tax increases and really horrible spending cuts on january 1st unless we act, so if congress does -- congress has gotten pretty good at doing these days, we'll go
reid on the floor of the senate only moments ago. listen to him. >> unfortunately there is one obstacle standing between you and congress to compromise, grover norquist. for years he has bullied lawmakers willing to put their oath of office or promise to serve constituents ahead of their pledge to this antitax zealot. his brand of ideological extremism has been bad for congress and even worse for the country. i was pleased to see republicans in congress distance themselves from norquist this week. i appreciate that very much. bill: here now to react. grover norquist, americans for tax reform. good morning to you. >> sure. bill: harry reid, what do you think about that? >> well, only senator harry reid of nevada could pack that many lies into something quite that short. look, the taxpayer protection pledge as harry reid well knows is a commitment by senators and congressmen to their constituents, not to me personally, reid tells that lie over and over again, a commitment to their constituents that when they come to washington they will reform government and spend less money, rather than
, they are not going to be mad of the him for long. joining me now is msnbc's joy reid. how are you? >> i'm doing well. >> so much as i think they will one day come to forgive chris christie, watch how his recent visit to "saturday night live" played with eric bowles. >> let's look at the republican acting like a democrat governor chris christie slobbering a wet kiss on president obama's cheek with days until the election. then this curious appearance on "saturday night live" while jersey still suffers from power outages and massive job losses. >> slobbering wet kiss. do you think i'm underestimating this? >> i think it will take longer to heal. your theory is sound as far as getting relelkted in new jersey. he did the right thing when it comes to remaining governor of new jersey. but i think that the idea that he can be forgiven enough by the base to run for president in 2016 presumes that republicans are going to basically do a punch the base strategy. because look, the part of the party that's about winning elections, the sort of wing that's the political wing, definitely is going to look to chris
change that changed is harry reid says he wants to do something about the filibuster. isn't what i want to do. it feels to me like a tectonic shift saying we need to change this, it has gone too far. >> it really is. harry reid has long defended the perogatives of the senate and of the filibuster even in the face of criticism from his own members, but virtually all of his members now want to do something and he has been infuriated by the way in which mitch mcconnell has carried out, but if you think about t it is a very odd time to do this. the house is under the control. >> you don't get that much. >> of the republicans, so it is not as if the filibuster is the only thing standing in the way >> of the republicans, so it is not as if the filibuster is the only thing standing in the way of democratic program and as norm said, at the beginning of this new congress president obama has a better shot at working with the senate including 6, 8, 10, republicans in using that to put pressure on the house so is this the right time to blow up the senate? >> norm, real quick, do you think we need 6
the fiscal cliff to prove his mandate? maybe. joining me now are joy reid, managing editor of the grio and robert reich, former labor secretary and professor at the university of california berkeley. joy, are you feeling sorry for grover norquist yet? >> immensely. he's such a lonelily l man. the senate is gone. enough republican senators have signal they're going to play ball. this is about the house of representatives and really for john boehner, everything changes in a good way for him. if we go off the curb or the cliff on january 1st, he won't be dealing with that tea party caucus and that's the bee in his bonnet that doesn't want to make a deal and by the way, a lot of them are are out the door. so greg's reporting is interesting because it signals that the white house has a public posture in which they say no, we dare not go off the cliff but we're going to get those tax rates increased and the reporting i've done tonight is that there's going to be additional meetings. this was the private version of the public meetings they did last week. now, they've been doing them in privat
. he spoke with speaker boehner and harry reid over the weekend and yet no meeting date is set. what kind of outreach is going on behind the scenes? are you aware, ken, of any other relationships that are being developed at this moment to try to fend off the fiscal cliff? >> yeah. mostly what we're hearing about is that the staff level there are ongoing negotiations between the white house, between harry reid and the senate majority leader's office and john boehner's office, the house republicans. but so far what we've seen, at least in the principal, is really just highlighting the differences and how stark the differences are. yes, there have been some republicans who have publicly said they are open to poe tengts tax increases, revenue increases, but even more so we're seeing this entrenchment over the military spending cuts, the unwilling nness to see that and we're seeing on the democratic side the idea that maybe it wouldn't be so bad if we went over the fiscal cliff and kicked the can down the road to the next congress which will be more favorable from the liberal perspective
and harry reid over the weekend about avoiding the fiscal cliff. the president will meet with small business owners today. tomorrow he meets with middle class americans who would be affected by tax hikes and more business leaders. friday he's going to travel to hatfield pennsylvania where he will give campaign style remarks to get support for congress to negotiate the right kind of deal. we are back with more steph after this. ♪ [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> announcer: ladies and gentlemen, it's the "stephanie miller show." ♪ >> yahoo, it is the "stephanie miller show," welcome to it. 1-800-steph-1-2 toll free from everywhere. steven weber. he will be there nobody panic he will be right there. charlie pierce said some good stuff about the fiscal cliff and other things. this is going to be a fascinating discussion. the president playing three dimensional chess. told you so. >> never mind. >> never mind. >> corn? when did we book corn? [ laughter ] >> oh, you kids. i swear. all right, you know what? i think there's a little estrogen in the clubhouse. ♪ ♪ >> hi, jackie schechner. >> good morning
of the session. 12,879, matching what we saw when harry reid began making comments about an hour and a half ago. the nasdaq lower by nearly nine points. the s&p lower by seven points. 1399, just below the 1400 level. why the late-day selloff? most on the street blaming these words out of washington about fiscal cliff. >> there's been little progress with the republicans, which is a disappointment to me. they've talked some happy talk about doing revenues, but we only have a couple weeks to get something done. so we have to get away from the happy talk and start talking about specific things. >> as we head into the fiscal cliff negotiations, my advice to the president would be seems like our friends on the other side are having some difficulty turning off the campaign. we need to sit down and work this matter out. >> behind closed doors. even with the fiscal cliff looming over the markets, our own jeff cox with cnbc.com says there's a growing bit of optimism about the outlook for next year. take a look at some of the predictions from some of the street's biggest names regarding the s&p 500 for n
programs. it is something that was taken out of my paycheck. >> bill: thank you. >> caller: harry reid said they didn't contribute to the debt problem. these big tax breaks contributed to the debt problem, the two false wars created the deficit. we need to lock arms and walk up to the cliff and see what it is all about. >> bill: arnold you got it. alan in new bedford mass. >> caller: good morning, bill. i think there are two separate issues. the bush tax cuts were to expire in 2010. they were only extended was because of [ inaudible ]. period. >> bill: yeah, that was all over the debt ceiling negotiations. the president went along with it, but it's time to end them now. they are still making the argument that that is a job creator. no, it's not. no, it's not. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." ♪ >> announcer: chatting with you live at current.com/bill press. this is the "bill press show," live on your radio and current tv. >> bill: how about it coming to you live indeed. coming you live on cirrus xm this hour only and on current tv. republicans talking out b
-panthers, philadelphia. >> how about that monday-nighter? >> i know. i just continue to worry about andy reid because he looks so pathetic. >> yeah, it's been a very rough year for the eagles and their head coach andy reid. a lot of folks are calling for his head. this team lost six in a row, the most since before he took over. but while a lot of people want him fired right now, i think you have to look at the body of work, carol, for him. six division titles, he won an nfc championship game, winningest coach ever in philadelphia. and i think a little respect, too, for reid as a person who lost his son earlier in the season. you could make a change with this eagles' team, a lot of injuries, including michael vick. but a lot of people also believe that an interim coach in the middle of a year doesn't always translate into immediately turning things around. so i believe, like a lot of people, that reid will be gone, but it won't happen probably until the end of the year. >> vince chelani from bleacher report, thank you so much. >> don't forget, go to bleacherreport.com. carol, good to see you. >> i'm goin
connell is angry about reid's plan to end filibusters on so-called motions to proceed done before any final debate. >> shutting off our right to express the views of our constituents as is being proposed would effectively shut these people out of the process. he will break the rules of the senate in order to change the rules of the senate. >> americans believe congress is broken. once again, the only ones who disagree with mitch mcconnell and republicans in congress. >>> another senator, dianne feinstein of california, set an election-day record after receiving the most votes ever for a u.s. senator. nearly 7.3 million. >>> well, will rick santorum run again in 2016? he tells "the weekly standard" he's, quote, open to it. >>> former president jimmy carter now 88 years old is back in haiti to help rebuild 100 new homes after the devastating earthquake there. it is his second trip there in the past year. >>> and finally, "politico" reports jill kelley, the supporting character in the petraeus scandal, has been stripped of her title as an honorary consul for south korea. she was using the title for p
. they fall to 3-8 on the year. and after his team's seventh straight loss, coach andy reid said after the game, he's not spoken to the eagles' ownership about the future with the team. and you know what, mika? he might as well not. i don't think he's going to be back in philadelphia next year. >> more news from the nfl, lions' defensive tackle ndamukong suh won't be suspended for kicking texans' quarterback matt schaub in the groin during the lions' loss to the texans on thanksgiving day. >> you can tell, he hits the ground, it's just a twitch. >> who does that? oops. following an official review of the incident, the league rules that suh's actions didn't warrant suspension, but they're still considering whether to fine him. schaub told a houston radio station yesterday that he would never want to be suh's teammate saying quote, you don't want a player like that. the stuff he hands for and the type of player he is, that's not houston texan worthy. suh has been fined four times and suspended two games. >>> a big showdown in the tri-state area. the new york knicks traveled across the ea
. >> and wolf, just moments ago, the senate majority leader harry reid released a statement, very, very direct and pretty critical of those republican senators who were critical of susan rice. really defending susan rice, and he was talking about the republican senators saying the election is over. it's time to drop these partisan political games and focus on the real challenges facing the nation. he said that these attacks on susan rice are unfounded and they don't jive with reality. i can tell you that senator joe lieberman who is the chairman of the homeland security committee came out of a separate meeting with rice and said he he found her answers satisfying and he would vote for her for secretary of state if he was voting. >> thanks very much, dana bash. with that looming on capitol hill, the looming battle over the so-called fiscal cliff. >> there's a lot going on. a lot of battles going on. specifically on capitol hill, that's for sure. lawmakers have just 35 days to reach a debt reduction deal. otherwise, huge spending cuts and steep tax hikes will automatically take effect and affect
? there has been so much acrimony. the white house, you know, pushing senator reid to get a budget out of the senate. is there going to be some kind of a kumbaya moment? >> i think there is. i just read the tea leaves and you listen to nancy pelosi or harry reid, the majority leader of the senate. both have already said that there is going to be a deal well before christmas. i think that they know. pressure from low income people on the left. they want them to make a deal. again, i don't think it's getting attention, but the president is under pressure. jon: it is so fascinating that so little seems to get done and get the voters sent the same cast of characters back to washington to get it all done again, i guess. >> that's optimistic. jon: juan williams, brad blakeman. happy thanksgiving. jenna: on this thanksgiving, the latest forecast up next for you. plus, thanksgiving favorites getting a whole new look this year. one of them is the star of them all. the turkey. turkey ice cream. need i say more? stay with us people really love snapshot from progressive, but don't just listen to m
with it again. thank you, stuart. martha: you have got senate majority leader harry reid saying there isn't much to talk about, that the election shows the american people have given the lawmakers the go ahead to raise taxes. >> americans when they voted raised their voices and supported our pledge. congress is acting in accordance with the will of the american people. martha: reid says any agreement must have the wealthy to pay a little bit more to reduce the deficit. bill: what happens if they don't see a deal? 90% of americans will see a tax hike in 2013. and families that make between $40,000 and $65,000 will have to pay an extra $2,000 to washington, d.c. in taxes. martha: concerns over america's fiscal cliff have sent the markets lower in premarket trading. there is a look at where the dow is poised to open this morning. with the dow, the s & p and the nasdaq all trading lower. speaking of that, a new round of violent protests break out in egypt as police fired teargas into the crowds. here are some of those scenes. >> unbelievable. more than 100,000 people flooded into downtown cairo. th
, let's don't forget the last time that the senate had a budget, it was when harry reid worked with his friend, speaker pelosi and nobody in the 2008 budget complained that it wasn't spending enough money. let's go back to 2008. $2.5 trillion, and cuts off a trillion in spending, right there. >> lou: there are all sorts of ways to get there, as you suggest here tonight, and, as suggested in other forums as well, but the idea that this president an boehner are coming together to have at least a civil discourse over what in the world we're going to do about the fiscal cliff, six weeks remain, are you any more hopeful as a result of the tone they've taken on the first day of discussion? >> well, i wasn't hopeful with the president's tone, when he said -- >> are you being partisan here? >> i'm not being partisan, i am being objective, when i say that the president proposed $1.6 trillion in new revenue? he wants to destroy the economy? come on. who in their right mind will allow that kind of increase to devastate the economy. it will not be hostess going out of business. >> lou: that is a go
're not going to stop the front four of anybody else. >> problematic. hey, with any luck, andy reid will be coaching the packers next year. >> or rex ryan. >> hey, we'll give you rex. you want rex ryan? >> we're happy with our coach. i would not want to be andy reid. >> no. >> he's going to san diego, barnicle tells me. >> he'd be on san diego next year. >> let's talk about what's in politico. you want to do that? >> love to. >> okay. so fiscal cliff is all the talk of washington, obviously. but you guys are writing this morning, your headline about the other fiscal fight, which is, again, the debt ceiling. >> yeah, i think people forget we have essentially three blink moments, sequestration, the debate, and we hit the debt limit probably some time in february. and you have to raise the debt limit unless you take the posture that some folks in the democratic party are recommending and saying just raise it unilaterally, have the president do that. i don't think that's what they want to do right now. in the past, congress has had to raise that debt limit. and as you know, house republ
leader harry reid refusing to put cuts on the table and saying it is republicans who are holding up negotiations should we expect to go right over the ciff? let's start by taling about whether it is impoible to get some kind of thoroughgoing resolution of this issue. >> at think it is, but we have to be working on a full-time. the president needs to be here talking to members of congress and working out a big deal, meaning tax reform, and panama reform, and other spending control. is is what the american people want. gerri: let's talk about what the president is doing. meetg with sma bsiness owners, tomorrow middle-class families. friday leaving tanning going to nnsylvania to visit a small company. what do you think about that? saying he should be focused full-time. this kind of schedule would seem to indicate his schedule is elsewhere. >> meeting with members of congress, of the house, senate. we have a lot of ideas on how to do this. let's get together, get consensus, it is going to make it a big deal now. he should be here talking to congress, getting it down. gerri: what are you
leader harry reid said let's not mess with social security, signals from the white house indicating they're not going to touchdown social security, maybe medicare, medicaid, but not social security and republicans will say, wait a minute, you're not serious. we're giving ground on revenue, you got to give ground on spending. and, brooke, i think the biggest thing here is that this bill, if they get a bill, is going to be so unpopular because it is going to raise taxes and it is going to cut benefits and getting the votes to pass this is going to be enormously difficult. >> you bring up the benefits issue. let me run through this, because it brings us back to the possibility of no deal whatsoever. again, on the automatic tax increases come january 1. we're talking about a lot of stuff here. the bush era tax cuts expire. as does the president's so-called payroll tax holiday on social security deductions, follow along with me, the so-called marriage penalty returns full force, you also have extended unemployment set to expire here. and the child tax credit drops by half. capital gains go up
, the senate majority leader harry reid the democrat over the weekend, perhaps to try to jump-start the talks. as of now, as the house of representatives comes back today, as the senate came back yesterday, we're still very much in limbo on the fiscal cliff. >> here's something else we know. some major republicans have come out and they say that they don't feel bound by the americans for tax reform pledge. most recently we saw house majority leader eric cantor. do you believe more republicans will stick by this? >> what we're finding out right now zoraida is that there's a little bit of coming to jesus moment about how to fix the fiscal cliff. for republicans perhaps it is going to be higher taxes. for democrats there's going to have to be some changes to entitlement reform. but grover norquist has been really the person pushing this no tax pledge, has been on our airwaves. he's been talking a lot about it. let's hear what he had to say about republicans who might break the pledge. >> no pledge taker has voted for a tax increase. they've had some people discussing impure thoughts on national
reid, mitch mcconnell, john boehner, nancy pelosi will be serious. going over the cliff doesn't make any sense. >> we all remember the t.a.r.p. vote that you reference. that really didn't come to a resolution until the markets -- i would argue -- scared washington. i wonder how important you think that is this time? do stocks need to fall before the two sides really get committed at the table? >> that is a terrific question. that's the main question. in two days we lost 1,600 points in the markets. it took us a lot longer time to come back and recover. i sat there and stared defeat in the face. we can't do it now. the markets will respond to certainty. that's what congress needs to give american business and american people. certainty about taxes. certainty about spending in congress and certainty about our commitment to lower the debt. >> how do you argue that you are considering all elements of reform if in fact you're going to stick by the norquist pledge. is there anything wrong with as senator graham has said with saying i made that pledge back then but my job is to be a senator
neither house speaker john a. boehner nor senator majority leader harry reid. in a position to make it happen. >> i think that's right. when the time comes, if we get to the time where a grand bargain of, you know, big deal that would take care of the nation's fiscal challenges for the next 10 or 20 or 30 year, the president will have to be the one who lays it all out and he's argued for a balanced approach, has offered, you know, $3 in spending cuts to every $1 in tax increases. what he campaigned on. he's in a good position to make that case. not -- the moment is not right exactly right now but i think when we get there he's going to be the one that will have to frame the whole thing up. >> we saw the polls yesterday and harold, that if this doesn't work out, people are going to blame and it seems republicans will take some of the blame. i think people are beginning to look for movement from both sides but would be upset if it didn't happen with a republican party. >> it has to work out in some form or another. hopefully it's a long-term solution or patchwork solution so it's a qu
leader harry reid that the work on this would continue over the break and that they hope to meet the president this week when they return. right now that meeting is not yet on the schedule, but that can certainly change, randi. >> has there been any concrete movement as far as we can tell that they are edging maybe just a little bit closer to a deal? >> well, that's really the question here. i mean, as i said, the work has continued among staffers discussing this. we know what the big hold-ups are, the big sticking points, and that's how to raise more tax revenue. we know republicans can put revenue on the table, but they don't want to see tax rates go up for anyone. we also know that the president ran on this idea of raising taxes on the wealthiest among us. the other issue is entitlements. republicans want to see democrats reform programs like medicare, so those are the sticking points. now, if there's been progress that hasn't been made public yet, and i can tell you that right after the election the president spoke with house speaker john boehner, and they talked about a grea
them to. that's colbert territory, that's harry reid, that's what they say. that's nonsense. people take the pledge. the reason why most republicans and a handful of democrats take the pledge is that they don't intend to raise taxes. >> wouldn't it be good if our leaders were not signing pledges like this and actually voted with what their stilts wanted? >> absolutely. yeah. it would be good. it's funny what an election will do. a lot of republicans are seeing the handwriting on the wall instead of the handwriting on a pledge. they'll realize this election in november was not about upholding your pledge to grover norquist. it was about upholding your responsibility to protect the middle class. i'm glad more and more republicans are recognizing the need to join democrats in compromise and consensus. we want deficit reduction that is big, bold, but balanced. as long as more republicans can agree with us on that we're willing to compromise with them and meet them halfway. >> sir, real quickly while i have you, it was announced in the last hour that the president is going to be hosting
majority leader harry reid indicated that little progress has been made in recent fiscal cliff talks. big surprise there. so you're welcome, investors. the major intoday sees slid on the news and the dow fell 89 points. >>> shares of green mountain coffee are skyrocketing after-hours. the company solidly beat expectations for fiscal fourth quarter earnings, pointing to strong sales of its k cup coffee & tea packs. >>> apple reportedly fired the manager behind apple maps. iphone software has been widely panned for flaws and inaccuracies since its launch back in september. what you really want is an accurate map, so there you go. >>> on to our top story tonight, president obama ups the ante on fiscal cliff pressure meeting with small business owners from all walks of live at the white house today. the million dollar question? what will be the real impact on small businesss? with me now, straight from that meeting in a fox business exclusive is the cofounder of book to the roots, an urban mushroom farm growing gourmet business. wow i have to ask yyu a lot about that because i don't understan
reid said about that. >> we would be somewhat foolish to work out something on the cliff and is six weeks later republicans could pull the same game they did before. >> dana, any indication progress is being made on this or just more roadblocks coming into the picture? >> you know, i was just as a breakfast where bowles and simpson were speaking, and it was a very gloomy and pessimistic affair, and erskine bowles was saying he sees barely eve an one-third possibility of avoiding the fiscal cliff. it appears everybody is just posturing right now. the president is doing it, congressional leaders are doing it. the few who do seem to be willing to compromise are for now the outliers. in fact, more obstacles are being thrown up, and we've got all of ten legislative days left in which to fix this problem. >> well, gloomy and pessimistic are not the words that we want to hear or i think, clarence, that we expected to hear because it seems that before the election there was actually some uniform opinion this absolutely was going to get done by the end of the year. what changed? >> well, it'
show any flexibility at all at curtailing medicare spending, period? harry reid has already said social security is off the table. we're not touching social security. that's not a story? no. it really wasn't. that was basically uncovered by the networks. but the debate now is entitlements and that is getting almost no attention. >> steve: in the meantime, you look at the stuff and it looks like the main stream media essentially acting as a negotiator on behalf of the white house. republicans need to cave. don't think of it that way. think of compromise because that at thend of the day, both parties will give up something. >> sure. and by the way, let me to be totally honest, republicans have already caved. they've already fallen for it, right? they've already been pushed into, you watched the sunday shows, attacking grover norquist, as if that's the point. it's not. so the press has cowed republicans to do their bidding and in effect, doing the white house's bidding. but again, the real story is going unanded and that is will harry reid and the democrats in the house, led by nancy pelos
. harry reid has said no, social security won't be part of these negotiations. it should not be part of the negotiations. but isn't the essence of the problem here which you pointed out, got your finger on a little earlier, in our conversation, that there was an election -- >> there was. i remember it. >> bill: they forgot it. they seem to have forgotten it. they put out all of these bad ideas, stale ideas dangerous ideas and they lost. >> this was really an election on those ideas. >> bill: exactly. >> romney made the case. you have a choice between going down my road or obama's road and the country supported obama's road as he said even if folks didn't vote for him chose his road in terms of increasing marginal tax rates on the richest americans getting more revenue. not turning medicare into a voucher system. ryan used to say when they first selected him let's have this medicare debate because this is a debate we can win. guess what, guys. you lost it and you can't have the policies you wanted now after you have.
ceiling. now harry reid is calling to combine the two saying that any budget deal must also include an increase in the country's borrowing powers. the white house's official stance that john boehner will have to raise the debt ceiling but so far president obama is not requiring the two deals to happen simultaneously. more bill coming up. we'll be right back. alright, in 15 minutes we're i think the number one thing that viewers like about the young turks is that we're honest. they know that i'm not bs'ing them with some hidden agenda, actually supporting one party or the other. when the democrats are wrong, they know that i'm going to be the first one to call them out. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. [ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> announcer: broadcasting across the nation on your radio >> announcer: broadcasting across the nation on your radio and on current tv, this is the "bill press show." >> bill: the republican war on women continues. jo
. eventually led to the cia director resigning. chip reid is here with more information. >> they finally put somebody out there who we thought would give us some information. this is the first time since the scandal broke that we heard from anyone that would appear to have inside information. it turned out to abby czar press conference featuring a famous celebrity lawyer that only served to raise more questions than it answered. it's been almost two weeks since the story broke and the first person to speak out wasn't general petraeus. it wasn't his alleged mistress broad. nor jill kelley the woman who accidentally uncovered the affair when she allegedly passed threatening emails from broadwell to the fbi. it was natalie khawam. >> we're here today to help the public understand who natalie khawam really is. >> she was joined by none other than gloria allred a celebrity attorney who always seems to find the spotlight when a high profile scandal hits. she was there for the woman who accused disgraced congressman anthony weiner to talk about their racy relation. she was there
.o.p., and will the democrats line up with harry reid and others? or do you think there will be resistance to something they weren't involved in. >> i think that they weren't involved will be the excuse. the leadership, by its definition, figuring out how to move this forward, as opposed to having the largest possible group and the lowest possible time. that's a recipe for doing nothing. that's exactly what has happened in the senate four years, according to the session's own definition of that. so when we talk about leadership, yeah, that would mean some people getting into a room, figuring out what can their side tolerate to move us forward. and to the earlier point, i think it's penitentiary to note that the premise for the entirety of the campaign season was that the republicans standard bearer said, we won't take one dollar -- we won't give you one dollar for every $10 of curts. that deal is no longer on the table. john boehner others know, the tax increases will be a part of this plan moving forward. part. not the only way. they understand that that is coming. the first bill isn't on the table. t
about patty murray. a lot of people are tired about hearing about mitch mcconnell and harry reid and some of these other leaders this is one you want to read this profile. >> we'll get to that. how but, robert? what's your must-read? >> my good friend, sheryl gay stollberg has a piece in "the new york times," about the historic nature of president obama's second inaugural. it will be on a second and the following day, the public ceremony on martin luther king jr. day and how fitting and how folks are lowering expectations given the fact they don't think they're going to have 1.8 million come out, as many people came out as four years ago. an interesting read. >> you never know, weather can always play part in that as well. we're all excited. thanks, all of you, i do appreciate it. and we'll see you again soon. >>> that is a wrap-up of this sunday edition of "weekends with alex witt." do stay with us, we have headline updates. up next, "meet the press," i'm alex witt, make it a good one. ♪ i'd like to thank eating right, whole grain, multigrain cheerios! mom, are those my jeans?
seems to be on board harry reid said he wants to make it much harder for the small membership of the minority to block the desires of the majority. even though we have a record number of women and minorities in the house come january house speaker john boehner has announced who will chair the 19 major house committee, and get this, they are all white men. the house democrats have not released their top announcements yet but we'll have nine high ranking democrats who will be women or a minority. we'll be back after the break. do you share the sense of outrage that they're doing this, this corruption based on corruption based on corruption. >>i think that's an u>> i'm not prone tot. understatement, so explain to me why that is. i think the mob learned from wall st., not vice versa. smiles make more smiles. when the chocolate is hershey's. life is delicious. but whether he's climbing everest, scuba diving the great barrier reef with sharks or jumping into the market he goes with people he trusts, which is why he trades with a company that doesn't nickel and dime
that's caused significant gridlock in the past, senate majority leader harry reid thinks a deal can be done by mid december, well ahead of the deadline. >> we have the cornerstone of being able to work something out. we're both going to have to give up some of the things that we to are a problem and so, it's like when we arrive at a point where we all know something has to be done. there's no more let's do it some other time. >> right now, there's some outside pressure on congressional negotiators to raise the 18.4 cent per gallon federal gasoline tax, something that's being pushed by state highway officials and road builders across america. casinos are also pushing to get language legalizing online poker into a deal and governors hit hard by superstorm sandy or wanting more if federal aid to come to them through a potential deal. whatever agreement it made to avoid the fiscal cliff, it's going to be worth a lot of money and now is the time that groups are stepping up to see if they can get in on some of that. >> all right, everyone wants a little piece of the action and everyone wa
reid and the democratic caucus to meet halfway on entitlement reform? >> that is a question, certainly. and i think that the democrats were as unhappy in the part of the democratic caucus when the bargaining negotiations took place. democrats were as unhappy as parts of majority leader cantor's kau can cuss were about the revenue side. you made the point that it's a big deal for speaker boehner to put the notion of new revenue on the table so what has changed in your caucus and your caucus' outlook when the notion of new revenue was for a lot of your members not talked about. what's changed in those districts where people got re-electeded having not changed their position at all? we were re-elected to fix problems. we were elected to fix the problems to get the economy going again and to fix the deficit. well, the president got re-elected. we know at the end of this year taxes are going up on everybody. everybody. rich, poor alike. we have marginal rates across the spectrum going up as well as c cap gains, dividends. everything. this is the so-called fiscal cliff, right? so we know tha
and of course majority leader harry reid. it's time to put aside all of these election year gripes and start focusing on how we get the american people back on their feet, healthy, strong and back to work. >> i hate to keep talking about the last election because, you know, we've got to look ahead. nonetheless, there's some very interesting little nuggets out there including one about the fashion line, if you will, that was put out by the obama campaign as a fund raising tool. now, jim messina, the campaign manager, said this, the obama fashion line ended upbringing him just north of $40 million, raise money, register voters, persuade voters, everything has to feed into those three things. now, a lot of people laughed about this, you know -- there you go. look at that. these are things from vera wang, marc jacobs, and it was something of a joke. but $40 million, who's laughing now? what do you think, is this a new tactic for campaigns to use in the future? >> absolutely. look, if you can raise north of $40 million putting a logo on a t-shirt or pocketbook or purse, why not? i mean, the ameri
. president obama has 19 nominees in the pipeline currently, and senator reid needs to move those forward. >> here we go. >> move them forward. it's time. it's important for women who are going to be impacted by these questions. >> i think we should also look at the ways in which these laws impact low-income women. going back to the hyde amendment which we're not talking about anymore. henry hyde would love to prevent any woman from having abortion. how do women get to the point where they're turned away from a clinic. oftentimes, they have trouble paying for an abortion. according to the 2008 numbers, they've declined except low income women. again, these state laws, they impact especially the ones where there aren't providers. the women in the study 150 miles away from the latest providers. they're seeking to drive abortion providers out of business so only the affluent women can travel that far. >> diana, in your study, you're looking at people already in tough economic circumstances. but what can you say with sort of some confidence about both for them and their children, how life wou
, bill. that's what we've got to see from nancy pelosi, harry reid and the president. where is their proposal to actually fix the problem? because raising taxes is not going to fix the problem. we've always believed that raising taxes is going to be harmful to a small businessman or woman in creating a job, and, you know, i tell this story about a cook that i met in an airport. when he told me he came up and says,ase do something about the problem in washington, we need more jobs. he said i had to take a cook's position because i couldn't find a job that best met my skill set in the construction industry. i want to go and find that job to make the kind of money that i feel i'm worth, but if you raise taxes on the small businessman or woman who is creating that job that is creating less of a likelihood that you're going to create the job. bill: you have to dance now and you're trying to thread this needle the difference between raising tax revenues and tax rates, there is a distinction i get it. do your constituents get it? are they going to look at you and say, hey you guys
the table for these negotiations this year and that top senate democrat harry reid agreed with that. but republicans say that all entitlements, medicare, medicaid, and social security should be part of these negotiations, be part of this discussion. >> you've got to reform entitlement programs. it's got to be on the able. so far the president has beenen willing to lead on that issue. >> and as steve was saying, ceo's of major businesses will be at the white house today, goldman sachs, cater pillar, macy's and others, will be talking fiscal cliff with the president and a couple of those ceo's, in addition to others o'clock will head up to capitol hill to meet with republican leaders on the same topic. back to you in new york. >> gretchen: all right. thanks so much for that update. now to your other top stories. new video out of syria showing rebels shooting down military helicopter. watch this. [ cheering ] we heard that chant before, that's ala akbar, as the chopper plunges to the ground in a ball of flames. it's reportedly the first time the rebels shot down a helicopter with a sur
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